Comments on: New Traffic Records http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/ Adventures in Open Source Erlang Sun, 06 Dec 2009 10:29:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Yariv http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-208 Yariv Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:03:40 +0000 #comment-208 Thanks Niklas. In the coming months, I'm going to be going full steam, building a webapp in Erlang and releasing all framework level code as open source. I think it's about time Erlang picks up some real momentum in the web framework department because less "worthy" languages have outpaced it in the past two years :) <br /> <br /> I'm confident Erlang's popularity will only go up from here. Thanks Niklas. In the coming months, I’m going to be going full steam, building a webapp in Erlang and releasing all framework level code as open source. I think it’s about time Erlang picks up some real momentum in the web framework department because less “worthy” languages have outpaced it in the past two years :)

I’m confident Erlang’s popularity will only go up from here.

]]> By: Niklas http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-202 Niklas Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:50:01 +0000 #comment-202 <p>Yariv, Thanks for all intressting posts about Erlang!</p> <p>A year a go I was introduced to Erlang. We used it in a AI project at the IT university of Gothenburg (Sweden). The task was to create teams of intelligent robots playing soccer, all implemented i Erlang with ERESYE (a tool for the realization of intelligent systems using the Erlang language). </p> <p>At that point I feelt that there was few (very few) people in the World knowing about Erlang. So it's an agreeable piece of news to see that things actually seems to happen know. A web development framework and standardized components which handle common web related activities is just what we need to make Erlang a popular web development language (afterall Erlang was first used for developing web based applications soon after it was invented.) </p> Yariv, Thanks for all intressting posts about Erlang!

A year a go I was introduced to Erlang. We used it in a AI project at the IT university of Gothenburg (Sweden). The task was to create teams of intelligent robots playing soccer, all implemented i Erlang with ERESYE (a tool for the realization of intelligent systems using the Erlang language).

At that point I feelt that there was few (very few) people in the World knowing about Erlang. So it’s an agreeable piece of news to see that things actually seems to happen know. A web development framework and standardized components which handle common web related activities is just what we need to make Erlang a popular web development language (afterall Erlang was first used for developing web based applications soon after it was invented.)

]]> By: Yariv http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-201 Yariv Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:58:43 +0000 #comment-201 Guys, it's great to hear of other programmers deciding to adopt Yaws and voicing their real-world needs. Keep it up -- it will be rewarding. <br /> The DB abstraction layer is in the pipeline :) Guys, it’s great to hear of other programmers deciding to adopt Yaws and voicing their real-world needs. Keep it up — it will be rewarding.

The DB abstraction layer is in the pipeline :)

]]> By: Anders http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-200 Anders Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:29:30 +0000 #comment-200 Oh, and full perl5 regexp syntax support. Oh, and full perl5 regexp syntax support.

]]> By: Anders http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-199 Anders Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:26:29 +0000 #comment-199 <p>I've been fascinated with Erlang from a distance for a while now but recently committed myself to actually learning it well enough to write some non-trivial applications so I can really get a feel for whether it lives up to its promise. </p> <p>I've been blogging my progress here: <a href="http://thraxil.org/users/anders/" rel="nofollow">http://thraxil.org/users/anders/</a></p> <p>So far I'm really enjoying it. Some of the enjoyment may just be that I enjoy learning almost anything new, but at least nothing I've encountered yet in Erlang has made me cringe or really lessened my enjoyment. </p> <p>Since I primarily do web development I'm keeping my eyes open for CRUD type frameworks in Erlang. Yaws is certainly already a solid basis for one. </p> <p>What I still haven't found in Erlang:</p> <ul> <li>like Damir, I want some kind of html templating system. ehtml would be fine if I was the only one working on a project but realistically, I need to be able to have non-programmer designers building the templates. For that, XML attribute based systems like ZPT or Kid have been ideal. </li> <li>some sort of functional equivalent to ActiveRecord/ORM for dealing with legacy SQL databases without having to write lots of SQL by hand for basic CRUD operations. Mnesia looks really impressive, but it would be a hard sell for a lot of organizations to get them off their existing mysql/postgres/oracle installs.</li> <li>a markdown, textile, and/or reST library. should be easy.</li> <li>a canonical tutorial on how to safely handle unicode in Erlang. My understanding is that some of the standard library isn't safe. </li> </ul> <p>Other than that, it looks like all the pieces are already there for a framework that could kick some serious ass. </p> I’ve been fascinated with Erlang from a distance for a while now but recently committed myself to actually learning it well enough to write some non-trivial applications so I can really get a feel for whether it lives up to its promise.

I’ve been blogging my progress here: http://thraxil.org/users/anders/

So far I’m really enjoying it. Some of the enjoyment may just be that I enjoy learning almost anything new, but at least nothing I’ve encountered yet in Erlang has made me cringe or really lessened my enjoyment.

Since I primarily do web development I’m keeping my eyes open for CRUD type frameworks in Erlang. Yaws is certainly already a solid basis for one.

What I still haven’t found in Erlang:

  • like Damir, I want some kind of html templating system. ehtml would be fine if I was the only one working on a project but realistically, I need to be able to have non-programmer designers building the templates. For that, XML attribute based systems like ZPT or Kid have been ideal.
  • some sort of functional equivalent to ActiveRecord/ORM for dealing with legacy SQL databases without having to write lots of SQL by hand for basic CRUD operations. Mnesia looks really impressive, but it would be a hard sell for a lot of organizations to get them off their existing mysql/postgres/oracle installs.
  • a markdown, textile, and/or reST library. should be easy.
  • a canonical tutorial on how to safely handle unicode in Erlang. My understanding is that some of the standard library isn’t safe.

Other than that, it looks like all the pieces are already there for a framework that could kick some serious ass.

]]> By: Byron http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-196 Byron Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:12:12 +0000 #comment-196 Darnit, network problems, sorry 'bout that. The second version with two links is the one I meant to post. Darnit, network problems, sorry ’bout that. The second version with two links is the one I meant to post.

]]> By: Byron http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-195 Byron Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:08:09 +0000 #comment-195 Damir, here is <a href="http://yaws.hyber.org/dynamic.yaws" rel="nofollow">some</a> <a href="http://www.bluishcoder.co.nz/2006/06/html-template-languages.html" rel="nofollow">info</a> on that. Damir, here is some info on that.

]]> By: Byron http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-194 Byron Fri, 25 Aug 2006 13:08:06 +0000 #comment-194 The Yaws webserver provides <a href="http://yaws.hyber.org/dynamic.yaws" rel="nofollow">php/asp-like embedded dynamic html content</a>. The Yaws webserver provides php/asp-like embedded dynamic html content.

]]> By: Damir http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-193 Damir Fri, 25 Aug 2006 06:23:33 +0000 #comment-193 Speaking about web development with erlang, can one use html templates? Or is it just embedding html into out/1 (for now anyway... ;-) ? Speaking about web development with erlang, can one use html templates? Or is it just embedding html into out/1 (for now anyway… ;-) ?

]]> By: Frank http://yarivsblog.com/articles/2006/08/25/new-traffic-records/comment-page-1/#comment-191 Frank Fri, 25 Aug 2006 04:47:40 +0000 #comment-191 looking for it ;) looking for it ;)

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